Todoist Getting Things Done



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  • Todoist allows me to incorporate my task list into projects (Nozbe did as well, but Todoist seems easier to use). Those projects are the things that I need to get done to advance my work and my personal tasks and goals.
  • A Pomodoro timer is a method for driving flow - the ability to get lost in deep concentrative work where time seems to disappear, and you get tons of work done! Pomodoro is the best way I have found to get flow. The way it works is you set a timer for 25 minutes and work without breaking.
  • I use OmniFocus (omnigroup.com) as my task management tool. If you are a Mac-user and committed to getting things done, the software is well worth the investment (and, if you are a power-user, so is the upgrade to Pro). However, OmniFocus comes with a learning curve and you will need to be patient as you learn to use it well.
  1. In depth discussion
    1. Evernote
    2. Todoist
    3. NirvanaHQ [winner]
    4. FacileThings

If you’re unfamiliar with Getting Things Done, I strongly urge you to go read the book, it’s a life changer. I do not intend to repeat the contents here, but I will include some nice variable-length summaries I’ve found and enjoyed:

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It’s not a perfect book (I gave it ★★★★☆), but the abstract concepts behind it are so powerful that in combination they feel like acquiring a superpower.

Getting Things Done is one of those very rare books that changed my life. Before reading it in 2014 I considered myself a smart and driven person, but also unreliable, irresponsible and chaotic. I would pick up and drop projects on a whim, forget tasks that I promised to do, arrive late to everything and generally I just felt unproductive and stressed. The trust between present-me and future-me was pretty low.

After several years of practicing the GTD system, I became an objectively more reliable, consistent and productive person. Present-me and future-me have become great allies and even more importantly I enjoy the process of planning and performing my tasks and work.

The book was published almost 20 years ago and today is still, in my opinion, the best and most complete personal productivity system out there. While originally it was implemented with physical files, folders and papers, it has since been transformed by many practitioners to accommodate to the digital age.

When I started practicing GTD, the best implementation I found was in Evernote. It was called “The secret weapon” and it worked well — I’ve used and refined it for years, until last year I finally decided it’s time to switch. Surely a better implementation must exist by now.

After taking a couple of months to try different software solutions, I’ve settled on using NirvanaHQ. In the next section I explain why.

For those who just want a straight answer, NirvanaHQ is my winner. After sticking with it for months, I’m still very happy. I summarize the comparison below:

Evernote: my first GTD implementation. Used it in 2014-2018 and it completely worked. Clunky to set up and clunky to use, but versatile enough to deliver a full GTD experience. In my opinion it was the best option until recent years.

Todoist: a well designed and implemented general task-management app. Requires a lot of tinkering to fit to the GTD system and then it’s a proper solution. I love how responsive and intuitive the app is and that it has many third party integrations. Currently my second choice.

NirvanaHQ [winner]: finds a great balance between true GTD implementation and a light, well designed modern service for web and mobile. It’s not perfect (I am sorely missing integrations with outside services such as calendar or IFTTT/Zapier and support for task images / attachments), but it really achieves the GTD vision simply and beautifully. My current choice.

FacileThings: the most true, hard-core implementation of GTD I’ve seen and a great tool to introduce newcomers to the system with a guided experience. The only tool that has built in consideration of your purpose, vision, goals, areas of responsibility and even formalized a weekly review process. Too bad the UX is not so well designed and requires a lot of clicks to get anything done, and perhaps a bit too restrictive in doing GTD “the right way”.

I’ve also tried other apps like AnyDo, Wunderlist and Remember The Milk but didn’t find them to fit well with GTD.

If you’re interested in setting up a GTD implementation for a non GTD-native app like Evernote or Todoist, read on…

What is required to implement GTD?

As far as I can see, to implement GTD you need two things:

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  1. Mutually exclusive folders/labels to represent task status: [Inbox / Now / Next / Someday-Maybe / Waiting-Delegated / Complete].This is trivial: I need to be able to move a task from one status to another and have it erase the previous one automatically (otherwise, when I label something as next I’d have to also remove the label soon).
  2. Concurrent labels to represent context:
    • What: properties of your tasks such as: priority, low/high energy, estimated time and so on. They can also be keywords such as: health, finance, family and so on.
    • Where: places where you’re likely to do tasks.
    • Who: separate tags for people you frequently work with or delegate tasks to.

The context labels allow me to figure out what to do next that fits my context. For example when I’m driving, need to fill 10 minutes or am in the mood to do something specific.

If you can make these two requirements work, you’ve got yourself a basic GTD system and the rest is details (which can sometimes still be very important!).

Now

Further considerations:

  • Separate work and life tasks easily.
  • Have useful reminders that pop up at the right time, in the right context, in the right location.
  • Integrations with other services (such as your calendar).
  • Great UX and a snappy multi-platform experience.

Side note:
The minimal implementation of GTD that exists is probably todo.txt.

Evernote

My first GTD implementation. Used it in 2014-2018 and it completely worked. Clunky to set up and clunky to use, but versatile enough to deliver a full GTD experience. In my opinion it was the best option until recent years.

Implementation

The best implementation of GTD that I’ve seen for Evernote is The Secret Weapon. The only thing I strongly object to is their decision to implement task status as tags, under a .when label (see their setup page).In Evernote, I think task status must be implemented using the notebooks, since they are the only mutually exclusive kind of tag (reasoning given above).Below is a screenshot of my own setup which has worked for me for years. Note the separation of work and life into two notebook stacks. Task status switches are very easy to manage.

Pros

  1. Super easy to capture tasks, ideas and information. Evernote implemented a great capturing tool on android by creating a 1-click widget to capture text, photos or voice. Everything goes into the inbox to be processed later.
  2. Extremely flexible. Using notebooks and tags you can set up your system any way that you want. Tags have infinite hierarchy.

Cons

  1. Not GTD-native. By that I mean that while Evernote is versatile enough to implement GTD, it wasn’t built with GTD first in mind. The result is a somewhat clunky daily experience. For example:
    • Tasks are just Evernote notes, which don’t have standard task properties like energy levels, time estimation or the ability to “tick” a box when done in a satisfying manner.
    • Reminders in Evernote are weak and it is hard to define and properly follow self-imposed due dates.
  2. Two GTD notebook stacks are required to separate work and life tasks. Or at least that’s the best separation I could think of.

Todoist

Gtd todoist setup

A well designed and implemented general task-management app. Requires a lot of tinkering to fit to the GTD system and then it’s a proper solution. I love how responsive and intuitive the app is and that it has many third party integrations. In my opinion even after proper setup it’s second to NiravanaHQ, but for non-GTD-purists it might be a winner.

Implementation

The setup in one picture:

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Todoist Getting Things Done Now

The main problem with implementing GTD on Todoist is that this software is oriented around due dates and there is no clear way to implement task status. This could be solved by either having a set of mutually exclusive labels (for task status) or simply nested labels (for projects, which would free up the Todoist projects pane for task status purposes). Unfortunately both features are missing, so I’m facing a dilemma:

  • If I use the projects tab for task status, then I have to implement my actual projects as labels, which sucks because Todoist labels are not nested and generally not first class citizens.

  • If I use labels for task status, they are not mutually exclusive which is one of the two requirements above.

How to solve this? Interestingly, I found a way around this limitation with the use of filters: give each task-status a label.

For each task-status create a filter which shows only tasks for which that status is the highest priority.Add the filters to favorites and then view the task statuses from there.

As an example, say I have the task “buy milk”. At first I add the label Soon to it. Then at some point the task becomes relevant and I add the label Next to it. The filter for Next is set up in such a way that it shows everything with label Next, so the task will be seen under it. But! The filter for Soon is set up so that tasks which belong also to Next do not appear under it, and so the task is effectively gone from this view.

To define the filter simply enter: Soon & !Next which translates to: “Show me tasks which belong to Soon and don’t belong to Next”.

Naturally I setup the other task-status the same way.

Pros

  1. Full of integrations with other services
  2. A very smooth experience both on web and mobile
  3. Powerful reminders and repeating tasks

Cons

  1. Not GTD-native and not trivial to set up proper GTD even when trying. And to be honest, even after proper set up I was still missing some critical GTD features like assigning a contact person to a task (it’s possible to implement contacts as labels, but since there are is no nesting with Todoist labels it becomes a mess).
  2. I don’t really get the purpose of the karma system (scores your productivity).

NirvanaHQ [winner]

Nirvana Finds a great balance between true GTD implementation and a light, well designed modern service for web and mobile. It’s not perfect (I am sorely missing integrations with outside services such as calendar or IFTTT/Zapier and support for task images / attachments), but it really achieves the GTD vision simply and beautifully. My current choice.

Pros

  1. GTD-native. Easy to manipulate and process the tasks.
  2. Intuitive UX and a smooth experience across web and mobile.
  3. Using Areas, very easy to separate work and life tasks.
  4. Overall, strikes a great balance between GTD purity and great UX.

Cons

  1. No integrations with other services such as calendar.
  2. No support for attachments of any kind. This service is only text-based for now.
  3. Repeating tasks do not support countdown from the time your finished the previous iteration of the task.
  4. Task capturing on mobile is weak (requires opening the app and then a long press on “+”). This is solved by adding an IFTTT note widget which sends an email to my Nirvana inbox.

Note:I was recently made aware that there is an offline-desktop clone of NirvanaHQ, called Everdo. After testing it for a few minutes, it is a near-perfect clone, down to exact UI placements. Personally I don’t like such blatent copying, but for some of you this might be an alternative to consider.

Getting Things Done Todoist Pdf

FacileThings

The truest, most hard-core implementation of GTD I’ve seen. It is the only tool that has built in consideration of your purpose, vision, goals, areas of responsibility and it even formalized the weekly review process. Too bad the UX is not so well designed and requires a lot of clicks to get anything done, and perhaps a bit too restrictive in doing GTD “the right way”.

One thing I’ve noticed about FacileThings is that it’s a great platform for introducing people to the GTD method. Some of my friends who were not that interested in reading the book were happy to just watch a youtube summary of it and then try FacileThings, which provided a guided, handheld GTD experience. As their free trial ended, some of these friends decided to continue with GTD, but not all of them stayed with FacileThings.

Pros

  1. A great, very true implementation of GTD. I’ve actually recommended this service to friends as an introduction to the method instead of the book - it’s more interactive and forces you to work right.
  2. The only implementation I’ve seen that incorporates higher GTD concepts such as the weekly review, areas of responsibility, Vision, life goals, etc.

Cons

  1. Clunky UX. It’s too hard to manipulate tasks and get all their parameters right.
  2. Mobile experience is not good.
  3. Not flexible. You can’t do shortcuts that are against the pure GTD way. For example:
    • you can’t add a task to the inbox and immediately process it. It goes into a processing queue which means that I only get to fill out the details when I’ve already left the current context.

Other GTD apps

Since posting, additional GTD apps have been recommended to me by various readers of this post. I’ll try to keep a list of them here:

Todoist Getting Things Done At Home

  • Nozbe
  • Everdo
  • GTDNext
  • Skedpal
  • (Update 2019-11-04) Amazing Marvin - this one looks amazing. Extremely configurable and serious power under the hood.

I’ve given each of these at least a cursory glance and while some of them are quite nice, my overall recommendations remain the same.

Further discussion

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